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Author Topic: Dodge baquet ish build.  (Read 101519 times)

jim

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #135 on: 05 Oct 20, 02:40 pm »
Thanks Chris and Graham, It will be fully operational with either another cable operated caliper or a cable pulling on the brake pedal.

Marek.Z.N

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #136 on: 06 Oct 20, 06:03 pm »
it looks great. handbrakes (functional or not) add lots to a cyclekart in my opinion. levers and dials and big red buttons definitely make things more interesting

jim

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #137 on: 06 Apr 21, 08:04 pm »
I thought I would dig the filthy dirty kart out yesterday and show it a glimpse of the sunshine. I'd  made a little screen for it some months ago but I don't quite like the fit. So I didn't bother cleaning it and rolled it back into the dark.

jim

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #138 on: 23 Jul 21, 06:19 am »
The track at Castle Coombe was quite demanding on the bath chair. I unloaded it from the van last night and gave it a check over. I found a couple of loose spokes and the L/H rear wheel hub had worked slightly loose. The inner R/H front wheel bearing is a bit rumbly which is because its just a shielded bearing and not a sealed one. All the off road driving in the rain and puddles has probably washed away the grease. I have a few 6003 bearings and some are 2RS so it will be replaced with one of these. Oh the joys of regularly thrashing a CK lol. I think it will be worn out before me and I'm already dead in places. lol

jim

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #139 on: 07 Sep 21, 08:27 am »
I do like a boat tail. Even though not on the inspiration car I have made a wire former from fencing wire and cable ties. The wires can be slid in the joint to try and get an even shape and tack welded when happy. I will use this as a former to make a tail from aluminium.

Applejack

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #140 on: 07 Sep 21, 03:54 pm »
Looking good Jim do you think that you might have cooling problems.

jim

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #141 on: 08 Sep 21, 05:52 am »
It May well create a problem with no heat escaping Graham but I might put in some vent doors like Chris S.

Marek.Z.N

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #142 on: 09 Sep 21, 07:04 am »
Thats one of the brilliant things about cyclekarting. If you fancy adding this that or whatever.... you can. and you can build a kart and then edit it in the future. looks like a nice tail shape.

Adrian

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #143 on: 09 Sep 21, 11:18 am »
Boat tails are nice but I liked it the way it was. The dummy petrol tank and brass lamps were inspirational.
Build another one.
:>)
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jim

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #144 on: 09 Sep 21, 06:27 pm »
Thanks Adrian, I will make it so I can swap them around and have both looks.

Adrian

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #145 on: 12 Sep 21, 01:00 pm »
Good idea lad!
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Denny Graham

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #146 on: 06 Oct 21, 10:22 am »
Hope you don't mind a fellow Cyclekarter from the Colonies jumping in here Jim. As Rhys and Chris know from
their participation in the CyclekartClub forum, me mutt gets me up in the middle of the night to take me for
a walkabout. So now that I'm wide awake and having a warm milk to maybe get me back to sleep....I thought
I'd see what was going on across the pond.
Just went back a year or so and read your whole build thread. Very impressed with your build. I see you
certainly did put that bead roller to work on the Dodge. And......you've really made use of what ever you could
find taking up space around the shop for the build. That's holding true to the Stevenson's original intent.
Had a couple of questions if it's alright. I see you've bent several sizes of square and rectangular tube for the
build. What sort of die/form or what ever are you using? It appears from the pictures, that some was bent cold
and some heated?
I'm forming the sub structure of my latest build, a 1925 Miller 122/91 using 1/2" x .058" square tube by heating
it and bending around various pieces of round stock I have on the shelf. Some of the very large radius I've run thru my HF Ring Roller.
How did that sprung rear axle work out for you, have you had any problems with the chain???. And....one more
thing, I see you and some of the other guys are using a centrifugal clutch instead of a TAV. No problems???
That hasn't seemed to work to well with the guys over here, probably because most of us are running gear
ratios much higher than what I've seen posted by you guys. We're typically in the 5's and many typically
run around 6:1. Pulling those 17" wheels seems to burn up clutches pretty quick.
Thanks and that kart really turned out great and I really enjoyed the photo journey.
Denny G
Sandwich, IL USA 

jim

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #147 on: 07 Oct 21, 06:17 am »
Hi Denny, Thanks for the nice comments and I'm glad you enjoyed reading the build journal. Some of the box section(square tube) was bent cold using a conduit bender a little bit at a time. It just kinked if I tried to pull it round too much. I also cut slits in some of the other pieces of box, pulled them round and welded it back together.
The rear leaf springs have worked out much better than I expected. I thought the movement up, down and tilting would chuck the chain off but I've never had a problem. Most likely because there is only about an inch and a half or so of travel. It feels very planted in tight corners and does smooth out most bumps.
I use a ratio of 12:1 between the engine and axle which can be changed easily with the lay shaft sprockets. Here In the UK we mostly use smaller tighter circuits than you chaps over the pond it seems. So the ratio gets me quick out of the corners but I lose out on top end speed. To compensate for this I build my engines to rev high and can get to about 35mph. The centrifugal clutch works well with this gear ratio and the only reason I used a centrifugal clutch was because I had one kicking about.
Good luck with building your Miller, they are a stunning looking car and I look forward to seeing a build thread for that.
All the best, Jim

Denny Graham

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #148 on: 07 Oct 21, 06:56 am »
Tks for the reply Jim. Yeah, square section tube is a butch to bend cold. The ring roller as I said, does a nice
job on the large radius, that is, like 20-30". On the smaller ones like 3-6", which is called for at some of
the bonnet corners, I've found that clamping disks of similar diameter to the welding table and heating it
works pretty good.
I've duplicated the rear leaf spring that Miller used on all his cars thru the 20's, only mine are dummy springs
used as axle support members. But, the way I've built them, they could easily be swapped out for a real
leaf if I decide to do that in the future. Which.....I just might do as a matter of fact.
And yep.....we do tend to stretch out the distance over here. I don't know what sort of revs you're pulling
with your engine, but the Lifan in my Riley with stage one mods and a Mikuni runs about 5k (no governor)
and that will pull me down an open flat stretch a little over 50 mph. I'm running a 72/12 or 6:1 gear and
with the 17" Honda CT90 wheels, that would make short work of a centrifugal clutch.
I'd post a picture here but Rhys has mentioned before, that this is a site for you guys in the UK,
so I'll respect that.
However, I do have a build thread going on the cyclekartclub.com site, if you care to see it. https://www.cyclekartclub.com/forum/cyclekart-tech-forum.2/mothers-little-miller.61660/
Thanks again, and hope you guys get some seat time in before winter.
Denny G
Sandwich, IL USA

 

jim

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Re: Dodge baquet ish build.
« Reply #149 on: 07 Oct 21, 04:54 pm »
Cheers Denny. I will have a look at the build on your link.