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Build journals / Re: ERA "R.1.B"
« Last post by christopher kaminski on 10 Apr 24, 02:58 pm »
So a run at Santa pod this time exposed a weakness in the front suspension, this did look weak but had been tested with people standing on the front. But it failed so strengthening needed.
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Build journals / Re: Hanomag 2/10
« Last post by Ian Fletcher on 10 Apr 24, 08:27 am »
Thanks thamesmud for the info on charging the batteries.  As mentioned in a previous post the club has minimal experience of electric power, so we will need to update the handbook and regs at some point. 

We will also need to update our Hazard Log and the Risk Management Plan.  Consequently, at some point could you detail the hazards regarding the various types of batteries and the hazards involved when charging them (especially in the paddock)?
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Off Topic / Re: Get out and drive!!!!!
« Last post by Jimr1999 on 10 Apr 24, 12:38 am »
Spot on Andy, very few get it right the first time, and the dynamics of each kart are as different as they look. My first run had me altering steering geometry and the engine mount to solve problems but the feeling of doing something that works and actually drives is amazing. Many have said before a cyclekart is never finished - it's true! They just get improved every outing. I think "Get out and drive" would make a great CKGB tee shirt.
Jimr
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Off Topic / Re: Get out and drive!!!!!
« Last post by uncantim on 09 Apr 24, 08:34 pm »
I couldn't agree more Andy, I learnt more about my kart in the first 2 laps of Whilton Mill than any of the research I did before I started.  It was a huge amount of fun with masses of grins per lap.  I'd say its more fun than regular karting and I've done quite a bit of that.

Whats more, it has spurred me on to get it finished.  Can't wait for the first kitcar show and Brooklands.
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Build journals / Re: Hanomag 2/10
« Last post by thamesmud on 09 Apr 24, 07:20 pm »
Good to see you are making some progress.
For balancing to be effective all the individual cells need to be above 3.5v but you have to ensure none go over 3.55v.  As you are charging a number of cells in series you would have to charge until one cell hits the top limit, stop , discharge it with a load eg headlamp bulb until it comes down enough to allow you to resume charging. It's a right game, an active balancer can do this for you.  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/166329140615?  This is a "dumb" one, a good programable one is the NEEY 4th gen https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1103039359/pages/all-items.html
An alternative is to parallel a group of cells and charge to 3.5v, this way they are all guaranteed to be the same voltage, with a series arrangement the overall voltage is not necessarily divided equally across the cells. 
Not about headway cells but there is a lot of good LiFePo4 charging and testing information on this site: https://off-grid-garage.com/.
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Build journals / Re: ERA R6B
« Last post by uncantim on 09 Apr 24, 08:23 am »
Hours of fun
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Build journals / Re: Alfa Romeo P2
« Last post by NewbieNick on 08 Apr 24, 06:28 pm »
Looks very promising Max.
 Cheers Nick
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Events / Re: 12 JULY - WESTONZOYLAND RACE DAY
« Last post by Ian Fletcher on 08 Apr 24, 05:04 pm »
WESTONZOYLAND UPDATE

Ian Lang is going to be the event lead for this event.

He will need the support of other members.  Volunteers are required for Clerk of Course, deputy Clerk of Course, Event Secretary and marshals.  The club has a proven procedure for organising and managing events, and the Events Co-ordinator is there to assist anyone carrying out these tasks.  Training and experience can also be provided for the various roles at our events at:
  • "Race the Waves"
    The National Kit Car Show
    Brooklands
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Build journals / Re: Alfa Romeo P2
« Last post by Max Venturi on 08 Apr 24, 02:16 pm »
A bit more progress. The 5mm rod has been shaped and welded to the tub frame...

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This frame outlines the final shape of the cockpit

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Next step is to bite the bullet, buy some alloy sheet and shape it to the tub.

The lower parts for the bonnet have been fabricated and await louvres (when I work out the best way to do it). The photo also shows the chassis front cover plate.

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More alloy sheet needed to fabricate the bonnet now.

The engine cover is finished

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So some progress but I'm months behind where I wanted to be by now all thanks to the filthy weather we've been having.

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Build journals / Re: Hanomag 2/10
« Last post by Jagodo on 08 Apr 24, 12:02 am »
I met Thamesmud and his wife on Tuesday evening to collect the LiFePO4 cells. We had a meal and a good cyclekart chat. They had come over to this side of the country for a short break, which was fortunate timing for me.

So now I have almost all of the components needed to make up my basic electrical system, I'm just waiting for a few little items for the wiring - solder tags, heavy duty cable and terminals etc. Hopefully, I might get a chance to connect everything up and see that the motor turns (or not) in the next week.

I haven't settled how many of the 56 cells I am going to use in my battery pack. The simple solution that I had intended was to use 48 to make three parallel strings of 16 cells giving me a 45Ah battery which would give me about 30-35 minutes of racing. That would be draining it down to 20% charged. It would probably take a little over an hour to charge which could be a real nuisance. Depending on the event, there might be time between heats/races to partially recharge and to avoid a full recharge.

But I am now considering making 3 smaller batteries of 16 cells each. The smaller batteries would provide about 10 minutes of racing each and I could swap them each heat/session and have two on charge while I'm driving with the third. The smaller battery would experience a greater voltage drop under load, which would reduce its power output a little (about 7%) but the cyclekart and driver would be 15kg lighter (also about 7%) so the performance might be identical. The drawback of smaller batteries is that they would limit me to 10 minutes of racing.

A third option would be to make 2 batteries - a small one with 16 cells and a medium one with 32 cells. They would give 10 and 20 minutes of racing, respectively. This would allow some flexibility for different types of events and would be a compromise.

For today, I favour the two battery solution. I expect that will change just as soon as I get the cyclekart together and actually drive it and see how it goes and how long the batteries actually last. Everything might change and need redesign - but that's what winter is for, right?

Charging a group of cells to get them to the same voltage as the others [ Guests cannot view attachments ] This is prior to assembling them into a battery with a BMS. I need them to be at the same voltage in order to pair them up in parallel.

This is a trial assembly of a 32 cell battery. [ Guests cannot view attachments ] I don't like the physical shape as it will be difficult to fit into the cyclekart, so I will have to take it all apart again. I think that half that height (and twice the depth) would fit under my seat and leave space in the engine compartment for a fake petrol engine.
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