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Pit bike wheel bearing shims
« on: 30 Mar 22, 09:36 am »
I’ve found these useful to shim out the front bearings on a pit bike wheel hub to suit the Gemini stub axle.  I’ve used 3 on the inside and 2 on the outside but the hubs do vary so others are different.
Caleb Components, shim washer SW253515

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Re: Pit bike wheel bearing shims
« Reply #1 on: 03 Apr 22, 10:00 am »
are yours the 1.4 or 1.6 wheels, Stefan?
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Re: Pit bike wheel bearing shims
« Reply #2 on: 03 Apr 22, 10:06 pm »
1.6" rims.

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« Reply #3 on: 04 Apr 22, 02:55 pm »
Thanks Stefan
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Re: Pit bike wheel bearing shims
« Reply #4 on: 08 Apr 22, 05:23 pm »
Hi, which bearings are you using?
What are you using to mount the rear wheels to the axle?
Thanks in anticipation, Jon.

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Re: Pit bike wheel bearing shims
« Reply #5 on: 09 Apr 22, 06:40 am »
Hi, which bearings are you using?
What are you using to mount the rear wheels to the axle?
Thanks in anticipation, Jon.
35/17mm ball bearings from somewhere like bearingboys.co.uk.
The details of the rear wheel attachment is in my Bugatti build journal http://www.cyclekartsgb.com/build-journals/bugatti-type-37-build/msg4747/#msg4747
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« Reply #6 on: 09 Apr 22, 08:03 am »
Stefan, in your reply to BLZeebub, you say you use roller bearings. Do you not use ball bearings?
Most folks I believe use 6003.
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« Reply #7 on: 09 Apr 22, 05:52 pm »
Stefan, in your reply to BLZeebub, you say you use roller bearings. Do you not use ball bearings?
Most folks I believe use 6003.
Oops sorry yes ball bearings....I'll correct my reply.   Just ordered roller bearings for another project

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« Reply #8 on: 16 Aug 22, 03:45 pm »
1.6" rims.

Hi Stefan
I am feeling a bit stressed out because I think you have answered this before, I am sorry, but now I can't find your answer.

You said you have the 1.6" rims - I think on pit bike wheels, right?

What I want to know is whether the size of rims makes any difference to the size of hubs, and therefore the size of stub axles? Gemini's stub axles are said to have 70mm long shaft, but my hub is more like 90, side to side (from memory). What am I missing?

Sorry to bring up an old thread and to ask about stuff covered previously
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« Reply #9 on: 16 Aug 22, 04:10 pm »
Did you include the seals in your measurements? I remove mine and use sealed bearings.
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« Reply #10 on: 16 Aug 22, 04:27 pm »
Did you include the seals in your measurements? I remove mine and use sealed bearings.

seals were removed, but will check dimensions
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« Reply #11 on: 16 Aug 22, 04:48 pm »
Did you include the seals in your measurements? I remove mine and use sealed bearings.

I checked and the distance through the hub is 77.94mm, but that includes the rebates for holding bearings, which are each 16.94mm, which would leave 6.94mm each side if the bearings are each 10mm wide, so at a push, I suppose a stub axle of 64mm at a stretch

So I guess I get the 70mm stub axle and pack with washers or a collar?

(sorry, don't know where the 90 came from!)
« Last Edit: 16 Aug 22, 04:49 pm by Tinworm »
I don't want to bore you all with the details, here. But if you are interested, have a look at my blog https://peteskart.blogspot.com/

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« Reply #12 on: 16 Aug 22, 04:50 pm »
I’ve found these useful to shim out the front bearings on a pit bike wheel hub to suit the Gemini stub axle.  I’ve used 3 on the inside and 2 on the outside but the hubs do vary so others are different.
Caleb Components, shim washer SW253515

!! now I understand what the shims are for! doh!

so, did you have the 70mm stub axles?
« Last Edit: 16 Aug 22, 04:53 pm by Tinworm »
I don't want to bore you all with the details, here. But if you are interested, have a look at my blog https://peteskart.blogspot.com/

-Peter

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Re: Pit bike wheel bearing shims
« Reply #13 on: 16 Aug 22, 05:53 pm »
Hi,
Yes the 70mm stub axles.   I'll have to have have a look at the Bugatti to remember exactly what I put where, but I think you're mostly sorted.

S

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« Reply #14 on: 16 Aug 22, 08:08 pm »
Hi,
Yes the 70mm stub axles.   I'll have to have have a look at the Bugatti to remember exactly what I put where, but I think you're mostly sorted.

S

Cheers Stefan. Thanks to Jim's hint, the penny finally dropped. I have some 40mm o/d CDS tube and have to fit some stub axles in the ends. Will probably bolt, primarily.
I don't want to bore you all with the details, here. But if you are interested, have a look at my blog https://peteskart.blogspot.com/

-Peter