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Steering quick release
« on: 17 Sep 19, 08:21 pm »
I was looking for a quick release to replace the one I've got because it has loads of play.   I saw one on Graham A's cyclekart and it seemed to be much more secure so I ordered one.  Well, its arrived and its much better and has minimal play.   I bought mine on Amazon but they are a bit cheaper on eBay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blue-3-Bolts-360-Deg-Steering-Wheel-Quick-Release-Disconnect-Hub-3-4-Shaft-Size/333255674467

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« Reply #1 on: 18 Sep 19, 09:47 am »
This is the one I used on the Morgan: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Car-Remove-Steering-Wheel-Quick-Release-Hub-Adapter-Snap-Off-Boss-Kit/113833089798?hash=item1a80fb1b06:g:FXkAAOSwZNVbYHLB.

It's a good solid connection, BUT it is a faff to fit, both in the initial installation and in refitting the wheel. I'd only recommend it if you need a horn push, I bought it before I knew what I really needed.

When I buy my next one I'll go with the same as you.

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« Reply #2 on: 16 Mar 22, 10:29 am »
Just looking up this topic.
There appears to be two types - one with a push button (seen in a lot of USA videos) , and a second one that appears to be a pinch plate release method.

Is one better than the other?

(Just checking before I buy.)
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« Reply #3 on: 16 Mar 22, 03:09 pm »
If it's of any use, the one I bought is the push button release that I bought from Ebay, for about £12, it seems to do the job well, with a 3/4" shaft socket, which works o.k. when welded to a 19mm steering tube.

Wheel fixings are 5/16" UNC, which is the only anachronism on a metric kart, but I'm happy with it.

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« Reply #4 on: 16 Mar 22, 04:59 pm »
Thanks for that Peter.
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Re: Steering quick release
« Reply #5 on: 16 Mar 22, 05:20 pm »
I've had a couple of the ones with the hexagonal bit you weld on the end of the steering column.  One was push button and was very loose.  The next was with the pinch plate and that's tighter but still rattles.   I've just bought one with a splined shaft and the pinch mechanism and so far it seems to be very tight.   I had to remove a flange that was on the steering column side but that was easy to do.

I paid £15 for mine - but prices seem to vary.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333791181228

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« Reply #6 on: 16 Mar 22, 07:20 pm »
I've had a couple of the ones with the hexagonal bit you weld on the end of the steering column.  One was push button and was very loose.  The next was with the pinch plate and that's tighter but still rattles.   I've just bought one with a splined shaft and the pinch mechanism and so far it seems to be very tight.   I had to remove a flange that was on the steering column side but that was easy to do.

I paid £15 for mine - but prices seem to vary.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333791181228
That sounds better Stefan, thank you. As you say, prices vary, £17+ from that supplier now. I'll have a scan later, I'm sure they all come from the same factory in China.
Does the spline weld on to the steering column?
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Re: Steering quick release
« Reply #7 on: 16 Mar 22, 08:19 pm »
I looked at ordering 10 from Alibaba but the shipping costs and taxes ended up at about £13.   I happened to find one listing that had a "make an offer" option.

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« Reply #8 on: 16 Mar 22, 09:11 pm »
I looked at ordering 10 from Alibaba but the shipping costs and taxes ended up at about £13.   I happened to find one listing that had a "make an offer" option.

Found one at £16, duly ordered. I'm sure I can work out how it works when it arrives.
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Re: Steering quick release
« Reply #9 on: 17 Mar 22, 07:51 am »
Found one at £16, duly ordered. I'm sure I can work out how it works when it arrives.
I took the flange off the base part on my lathe but could easily be done with a hole saw or angle grinder.   My plan is to drill a 16mm hole in the bottom and slide the splined ferrule over a 16mm steering column.

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« Reply #10 on: 17 Mar 22, 08:48 am »
Strange but true!
On the full size Morgan the steering columns are mild steel tube, all telescoped joints (base spline, mid column gearbox, and top taper) are silver soldered, at least from the beginning until early 1950. They have one pin, named in the factory drawings as a woodworking nail with head and excess length cut off and peened. The ones in mine which haven't moved since 1934 are about 1/16th of an inch!
On my cyclekarts I have brazed the spline part of the quick release to 19mm ERW tube.
We must avoid torturing our brains with false problems, it occupies but it can annoy. In jest!

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« Reply #11 on: 17 Mar 22, 09:19 am »
The link to the one I used in my previous post is broken, here's one that's currently available: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333620719411.

The advantage of it is that it's a good slop free connection, the disadvantage is that it needs 2 adaptor plates and a spacer ring to attach it to a kart wheel fitting. It's also more of a fiddle to refit than the other types, I'll add photos of the installation later.

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« Reply #12 on: 17 Mar 22, 07:21 pm »
Photos as promised, pushing the button releases the silver ring which is rotated to release the wheel.

Unfortunately I can't find a UK supplier, I would use this one again because of the slop free fixing.

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« Reply #13 on: 17 Mar 22, 08:37 pm »
It looks very neat Chris. Thanks for the pics.
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« Reply #14 on: 21 Mar 22, 04:57 pm »
I took the flange off the base part on my lathe but could easily be done with a hole saw or angle grinder.   My plan is to drill a 16mm hole in the bottom and slide the splined ferrule over a 16mm steering column.

Mine has arrived, got the steering wheel bit off in seconds - then half an hour to work out how it went back on! Easy once you know how.

It looks like the spline on the column part is pressed in to its base, or am I being over optimistic?

I plan to fix the spline in to the column - silver solder or weld it. How have you got on with yours Stefan?
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