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Tinworm

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basic pillar drills
« on: 25 Apr 22, 08:03 pm »
My pillar drill has served me well these last twenty or so years, but it is a hobbyist type job, bought in Aldi. 500W motor and 1.5-16mm chuck, so versatile, with easily changed gearing belts etc. Basic but useful. But its electrics are temperamental and its bearings wobble etc, so I want to treat myself to a new one.

This will not be a posh engineering machine, just a decent basic one. I have been looking at Clarke pillar drills on Machine Mart and think something like that for £100-£200 would do it. But just wanted to know, if that was your budget, what would you get? What experience do you have of that type of budget drill and what machine might you recommend?
I don't want to bore you all with the details, here. But if you are interested, have a look at my blog https://peteskart.blogspot.com/

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Re: basic pillar drills
« Reply #1 on: 26 Apr 22, 02:02 pm »
Much depends on whether you want a bench mounted drill press or a floor standing pillar drill.
The Clarke floor standing start at £357.

Personally, I'd go for second hand industrial quality - you'd get a geared back-gear for slow speeds (big holes), Morse taper chuck (for larger drill bits) and, with luck, a geared rise and fall (to take the strain off your back).

I've got a Union Pillar drill ex-school, £50 though it's 3 phase. Goes through anything! Bl**dy heavy!

If you want new, I suggest you have a look at SCHEPPACH DP16SL £210 from Screwfix and Toolstation but get yourself a decent machine vice too. Ebay has some good ones on at the moment but you'd have to travel to collect
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265658299203?hash=item3dda77f343%3Ag%3AAAUAAOSwt-JiY-Mo&LH_Auction=1
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185397543739?hash=item2b2a8e033b%3Ag%3ACC0AAOSwzntiZBU%7E&LH_Auction=1
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185400954816?hash=item2b2ac20fc0%3Ag%3ArPIAAOSwUwxiZ6uP&LH_Auction=1

Hope that helps.
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Re: basic pillar drills
« Reply #2 on: 26 Apr 22, 09:11 pm »
Thanks very much, Dave. All of those are a long way from me, but thanks for the recommendations. The Scheppach looks interesting. Cheers

This back gear business is a new one on me. Looks like I need to get Googling
I don't want to bore you all with the details, here. But if you are interested, have a look at my blog https://peteskart.blogspot.com/

-Peter

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« Reply #3 on: 27 Apr 22, 12:02 am »
This back gear business is a new one on me. Looks like I need to get Googling

I refer to it as 'backgear' because it does what a backgear on a lathe does, namely provide a low speed selection.
I'm sure that there is another name for it, just lost in brain fog at the moment.
Mine ranges from around 2000rpm to 80rpm (from memory).
Many 8 and 10 speed machines rely on multiple belts and pulley cones and they're a pain to change.
With 'backgear' you can drill your pilot hole at normal, flick over the lever and drill a big hole at slow. I rarely mess with the pulleys.

I'll try to post some pics in the morning to show you speed ranges etc.
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« Reply #4 on: 27 Apr 22, 10:19 am »
ah, I see. Thanks for explaining, David. I have always changed gear with changing pulleys. Doesn't take an awful lot of time, unless you are a professional under pressure.

Your 80rpm is luxuriously slow!

I found one old drill near me, which may need parts, but looks promising, not least of all because I wouldn't have to go far to get it (though the seller doesn't know much about it). Failing that, I may go for the Scheppach.
I don't want to bore you all with the details, here. But if you are interested, have a look at my blog https://peteskart.blogspot.com/

-Peter

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« Reply #5 on: 27 Apr 22, 10:24 am »
This shows the speed range, and the lever that operates the gear change with the depth setting.
I also have a foot stop switch - very handy, extra safety.
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« Reply #6 on: 29 Apr 22, 12:53 am »
This shows the speed range, and the lever that operates the gear change with the depth setting.
I also have a foot stop switch - very handy, extra safety.

gosh, that is a lot more impressive than anything on the machine I am bidding on.
I don't want to bore you all with the details, here. But if you are interested, have a look at my blog https://peteskart.blogspot.com/

-Peter

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« Reply #7 on: 01 May 22, 01:10 pm »
I just bought a classic drill. Nothing as flashy, spec-wise, as yours, David, but a good , solid job. Goodness knows how old -possibly 1940s or 50s. Good working order. smooth bearings etc. Brand new chuck, though. Bloomin' heavy, so yet been able to collect it, but have been to see it. Photos to follow.
I don't want to bore you all with the details, here. But if you are interested, have a look at my blog https://peteskart.blogspot.com/

-Peter

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« Reply #8 on: 02 May 22, 09:55 am »
I just bought a classic drill. Nothing as flashy, spec-wise, as yours, David, but a good , solid job. Goodness knows how old -possibly 1940s or 50s. Good working order. smooth bearings etc. Brand new chuck, though. Bloomin' heavy, so yet been able to collect it, but have been to see it. Photos to follow.
Good for you. Heavy is good. And from experience (1948 was an excellent year for 'things'  ;) ) older machines can give very good service.
Look forward to seeing some photos.
Picked up my 1970's metal cutting bandsaw on Saturday. Needs a fettle but is is identical to new ones.
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